Episode 89
Perfectionism, Productivity and Pain
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In this episode, Grace explores the hidden costs of perfectionism. She reflects on how the drive to achieve and stay productive can often be rooted in pain, and how these patterns affect both mind and body. Grace unpacks the cultural narratives around productivity, the toll they take on our well-being, and what it looks like to step into a more compassionate, sustainable way of living.
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[00:00:00] Hey y'all, how's it going? Welcome back to The Oath Grace Podcast. I am sitting here today
[00:00:07] going to talk to you about how perfectionism, productivity, and pain all go together.
[00:00:13] While at the same time, this whole week, I was putting a lot of pressure on myself to make
[00:00:20] this episode perfect. And it's one of those things where, you know, when you plan to do
[00:00:25] something but you things keep getting in the way of it, which in reality really just means I'm
[00:00:30] putting on off because I'm feeling a little vulnerable or I'm feeling like I'm not going to get it right
[00:00:36] or I'm nervous about it. Like that's procrastination. We put off things that we're not sure we can
[00:00:41] do well or right or, you know, insert perfect statement. And so it's pretty ironic. And I
[00:00:48] realized that yesterday as once again, I planned to record this and it just didn't end up happening
[00:00:54] because a million other things happened. So I am coming to you sitting on my couch because I'm not
[00:01:02] in my, well not my couch. I'm sitting on a couch. I'm not in my normal office, which means I don't
[00:01:06] have my video and my microphone set up, which is how I'm supposed to be doing these things.
[00:01:12] And I realized, you know what, whatever, I'm just going to record with my little
[00:01:17] small microphone here. We're not going to do video. So I'm sorry if you like to watch them on YouTube,
[00:01:25] but this is just going to be an audio podcast. And to my editor, I'm sorry if the audio is not
[00:01:32] perfect, but it's okay. We're just going to do the best we can. The whole point is I want you
[00:01:38] to get across. I want to get across to you how the pressure we put on ourselves can lead to
[00:01:46] a stuck nervous system and to symptoms and how oftentimes you may not even actually realize
[00:01:53] you're doing it. Actually more often than not, we don't realize we're doing it. Some people will say
[00:01:57] like, oh, I noticed I'm being critical of myself. I'm putting pressure on myself. But
[00:02:01] more often than not, we don't, we don't realize it until someone points it out to us.
[00:02:05] So hi, that's me. I'm going to point that out to you today. All right. So
[00:02:10] I'm going to guess that if you're listening to this, you might be someone who
[00:02:15] you tell yourself you'll relax once the dishes are done, but somehow there's always one more thing
[00:02:21] or you can't send an email without rereading it five times. You feel guilty if you sit down to
[00:02:26] watch Netflix without also folding laundry and even on vacation, your brain is already running
[00:02:32] through your to-do list. Or maybe you feel like you just can't always get it right. Something's
[00:02:37] always coming in the way of your to-do list or finishing it. You can't get done what you
[00:02:42] thought you were going to get done or maybe you keep putting things off and then you criticize
[00:02:48] yourself for putting them off and not completing them. All of these things are little habits that
[00:02:54] might not feel like a big deal in the moment, but together they add up. They are signs of
[00:02:59] perfectionism and productivity running the show and they have a huge impact on your nervous
[00:03:04] system and your health. But here's the thing. Perfectionism and productivity aren't just
[00:03:09] personality traits. They are actually learned survival strategies. They're ways that our nervous
[00:03:15] system learned to keep us safe, loved, and accepted. And while those traits may have gotten you far in
[00:03:22] life, maybe even made you successful, they can also keep your body stuck in pain, fatigue,
[00:03:28] or other chronic symptoms or actually cover up what you really do enjoy and what makes you
[00:03:33] happy. So first and foremost, let's define these two things. Perfectionism and productivity.
[00:03:39] Perfectionism isn't just wanting to do things well. It's the belief that your worth or safety
[00:03:46] depends on doing things without mistakes. We often define it as setting unrealistically
[00:03:52] high standards for yourself, being overly self-critical, and tying your identity to
[00:03:57] achievement. In a nervous system lens, perfectionism is a survival strategy. It says,
[00:04:03] if I get it perfect, I'll be safe, I'll be loved, and I won't be rejected. And we're going to talk a
[00:04:08] little bit more about that, but that is the primal need of this perfectionism survival strategy.
[00:04:15] Productivity in itself just means accomplishing tasks or creating output, right? But in the
[00:04:21] context of chronic illness and nervous system work, productivity often becomes more than that.
[00:04:26] It's used as a coping mechanism. And actually, I would say probably just in the wide human
[00:04:32] nature, especially Western culture, that's just anyone. We all use productivity as a coping mechanism
[00:04:38] to feel more worthy and like we accomplished and like we're good. Like we were productive,
[00:04:44] oh, it was a good day. Again, it's not just I like to get things done, it's if I don't keep
[00:04:50] moving, accomplishing and producing, then I feel anxious, unsafe, worthless, weak, not good
[00:04:57] enough, all these beliefs. So where perfectionism is about how well you do something, productivity
[00:05:05] is about how much you do and see they can totally go hand in hand, but they're also separate, both
[00:05:11] can become ways of avoiding rest, feelings or vulnerability. So today, I'm going to unpack
[00:05:17] the surprising connection between productivity, perfectionism and chronic symptoms. And I'll
[00:05:22] share why your body might be screaming at you when you push yourself too hard, how this shows
[00:05:27] up in sneaky everyday ways. And most importantly, some steps you can take to break the cycle.
[00:05:33] Okay, first and foremost, let's talk about these beliefs, where perfectionism and productivity
[00:05:39] come from. So these patterns don't just come out of nowhere. They're not flaws. Again,
[00:05:46] they are strategies that your nervous system developed. And I have to say this, like, obviously,
[00:05:53] maybe not obviously, but to me, obviously, perfection and productivity are somewhat easy.
[00:06:01] I don't know if I should really say the word easy, but they are, they're very normal
[00:06:06] to fall into because society praises you for being perfect and productive. It's like,
[00:06:13] you get the gold star, you're seen as this worthy person if you are productive and perfect.
[00:06:21] And so for a lot of people, this perfectionism comes from childhood messages. For instance,
[00:06:26] like, if you get good grades, you're lovable. If you keep the peace, you're safe. You know,
[00:06:32] maybe there was a sibling or a parent that in your family that was having a lot of trouble.
[00:06:38] So if you were the peaceful one, you didn't make a lot of noise or commotion or any trouble for
[00:06:44] your parents or you were the one that just kind of like smooth things over a little bit more,
[00:06:49] then you're seen as good, right? You're seen as the better one or at least just someone that
[00:06:56] they can count on your worth. Maybe you learned that if you can get it right,
[00:07:01] you won't get in trouble. Maybe you were always aware of everyone else in the home,
[00:07:06] aware of when to stay in your room. So to not disturb the peace or maybe you were counting
[00:07:11] down the minutes before a parent came home. So you weren't loud so they wouldn't get upset
[00:07:17] or you knew that a sibling was having a hard time or causing more trouble. So you stayed
[00:07:23] quiet. So it did not cause any quote unquote trouble. And so actually there's so much that
[00:07:28] could come from this, not just needing to be perfect and productive, but also that dismisses
[00:07:34] your own needs and wants. So you become quiet, you don't voice your needs, you don't express your
[00:07:38] feelings because that might be deemed as too much or disturbing the peace or you never felt safe in
[00:07:46] order to do that. So you just didn't, you stayed quiet, you stayed perfect. So the nervous system
[00:07:53] wires in this belief, if I do enough, achieve enough or never make mistakes, I'll be safe.
[00:07:59] The wiring doesn't just vanish when you grow up. It runs in the background,
[00:08:04] driving you to push harder, to do more, to criticize yourself for falling short. And I mean,
[00:08:11] I very much don't know this from a personal experience, but I have to name that I never
[00:08:16] saw myself as this. I never saw myself as a perfectionist or like I could never get it
[00:08:21] right. And so, you know, from the outside, I didn't look like someone who I never got straight
[00:08:25] A's. I never got like great grades actually, always had trouble in school. And along the way,
[00:08:31] I could have seen myself, or I did see myself as like having a hard time achieving things.
[00:08:37] So how could I be a perfectionist? Well, yeah, I got called out early in my early 20s in therapy.
[00:08:44] And I don't even know what I was talking about. But my therapist at the time
[00:08:48] called out perfectionism. And I said, I said, no, I don't think so because I've never been
[00:08:54] able to like get it right or get it perfect. Like I couldn't get that great, perfect grade.
[00:09:00] And as I said that, I was like, I had the a-ha of like, oh,
[00:09:05] oh, yeah, the idea that I can't get it right. That's perfectionism in and of itself. It was
[00:09:11] like that like literally if I was in a movie, a light bulb would have been all gone off right
[00:09:14] over my head of like, oh, okay. So then I kind of started diving into it of like, what
[00:09:20] does this actually look like? Because we have this idea of perfectionists. And maybe you're thinking
[00:09:26] of one in your life, maybe you are thinking of that person as you, but that all that we look all
[00:09:31] different. It's really more about the pressure you put on yourself, the fear that you feel if you
[00:09:37] can't get something right, or the rejection you actually feel underneath the surface,
[00:09:42] because you're so afraid of not being worthy of getting it right.
[00:09:46] So here are some of the ways that it can show up that might not be something you would think of. So
[00:09:52] a lot of people don't realize that they're operating out of perfectionism or productivity
[00:09:57] because it shows up in these really minute everyday ways. So for example, maybe
[00:10:04] you can't sit down to relax until the kitchen is spotless or even just cleaned up
[00:10:09] more than maybe it quote unquote should be or could be. Maybe you reread an email 10 times before
[00:10:16] sending it just to make sure it's perfect. Maybe you feel guilty if you sit down to watch TV or
[00:10:24] take a break from work or rest without doing all the things on your to-do list that you should
[00:10:31] have quote unquote should have gotten done for the day. Maybe your checklist always has to
[00:10:36] be done, but then you also feel like you can't ever get it done. So then you inherently just feel
[00:10:41] like you're failing. Or maybe you replay conversations at night worrying if you said
[00:10:46] the wrong thing. Are you always apologizing for being tired or sick even to yourself?
[00:10:53] Maybe you micromanage your healing. You're always getting new tests. Maybe you've already
[00:10:58] started brain training and nervous system regulation and you are always trying to
[00:11:04] figure out if you're doing it right and you're afraid that you're getting it wrong.
[00:11:08] Maybe you keep questioning whether you're journaling correctly or you're regulating
[00:11:12] your nervous system correctly and you're learning and reading all the things all the videos.
[00:11:18] Maybe you fall into the all or nothing camp where when you do something you do it you do
[00:11:24] it all. You do everything. You're full force at it. Or if you can't feel like if you don't
[00:11:30] feel like you can get it right and you're going to be good at it you just don't approach it at all.
[00:11:35] That's all or nothing. Maybe you tense up the second you feel behind. Tight shoulders, tight jaw
[00:11:43] and this feeling of not being able to get it right or always doing more is that pressure
[00:11:51] that we have within our bodies. Perfectionism doesn't always look like a gold star student
[00:11:57] with color coded binders. Sometimes it's in these tiny habits that keep your nervous system
[00:12:03] stuck in the danger mode. Anytime I start to share examples like this I can start to see
[00:12:09] some of my clients some of my students like will go off like oh okay all right I see that
[00:12:16] right. Maybe you're the one always planning things in your family. You're always planning
[00:12:20] the things to do. You're always on. That's productivity and the way that you approach it
[00:12:26] if you approach it with pressure and perfectionism that's the added layer to it.
[00:12:33] One thing I want to highlight here too is that for many of us productivity is actually a coping
[00:12:38] mechanism. So as I mentioned earlier it's really to cover up this belief systems about
[00:12:43] ourselves that we're not worthy if we don't do these things and it looks like maybe on the
[00:12:50] outside like ambition or discipline but underneath it's a nervous system strategy.
[00:12:56] So when we stay busy we keep moving. When we're constantly checking things off the list
[00:13:00] it keeps us having to sit with what's underneath and that anxiety the grief the shame the old
[00:13:08] stories we don't want to feel is what we're covering up. So productivity becomes this
[00:13:15] socially acceptable way of avoiding and actually I even say more than socially acceptable.
[00:13:22] It is praised. It is you get the gold star if you are more productive and you are more perfect at it.
[00:13:31] Nobody questions you for working for being a hard worker. They reward it. You get praised
[00:13:37] for being efficient organized on top of it but for many of us our body ends up paying
[00:13:43] the price. I mean I can't even tell you since I've become a little bit more aware at this countless
[00:13:48] times I overhear conversations or I hear someone say to me you know like oh wow you're doing all
[00:13:56] that or like oh wow how do you do it or you know wow you did this and there's a part of me that's
[00:14:03] like oh that feels good right that validation which there's nothing wrong with that. It's not
[00:14:08] there's nothing wrong with getting validated and at the same time like the other part of me
[00:14:13] can be can become aware of oh okay am I only getting my validation from all the sprays of
[00:14:20] you know being the quote unquote good girl and doing all the things that I can wow people by.
[00:14:25] So I don't want you to think I'm just completely pessimistic about
[00:14:29] productivity because sometimes it's needed and it's how we get to our desires and our
[00:14:34] goals in life. It's just more about like how much are you doing and how are you approaching it.
[00:14:40] So what perfectionism and productivity do to your nervous system is that it keeps it on constant
[00:14:45] activation. You're never signaling to your brain it's okay to stop it's okay to rest we're
[00:14:52] safe to do so. We deserve and are worthy of not producing all the time. Maybe your
[00:15:00] productive coping mescanism is working a lot working later so you can feel avoid feeling lonely
[00:15:08] or being productive so that you avoid actually acknowledging with making you unhappy or you're
[00:15:17] continuing to fold the laundry so you're avoiding thinking or crying about maybe actually what you
[00:15:22] feel inside and I have to normalize that this is a very normal human response if we never learned
[00:15:29] to express our feelings, manage our feelings if we never learned to be authentic to ourselves and
[00:15:36] it's okay to do that and it's safe to do that then we're going to cope. We're going to put on a shield
[00:15:42] of productivity to help us feel accepted and that's a very primal normal response. So this
[00:15:50] isn't to say oh look at what you're doing to yourself you know shame or guilt for being
[00:15:55] productive or perfect not at all not at all this is really just to help you become more aware of all
[00:16:01] these little ways that it can show up. Your body doesn't want you to outrun your feelings forever
[00:16:08] and that is when symptoms start showing up that's when the fatigue the pain the migraines the
[00:16:14] IBS the anything shows up as a way to force you to pause. So productivity is being used
[00:16:24] as a coping mechanism and the good news is once you see it you can start to shift it. So when your
[00:16:30] nervous system is wired for this when it's wired for productivity and perfectionism your body never
[00:16:36] really gets to rest and even when it does it doesn't know how because if you think about it if your
[00:16:41] baseline like your base on your nervous system is to constantly go your body is stuck in that
[00:16:46] sympathetic activation which is also known as fight or flight mode and that means that your
[00:16:52] stress hormones are pumping constantly so your cortisol increases your hormones maybe become out
[00:16:59] of balance your digestion starts to slow down or gets a little bit messed up for lack of better
[00:17:06] medical terms your muscles stay tense and your sleep gets disrupted maybe you're someone who has
[00:17:13] high anxiety and it's really hard to slow down because your nervous system thinks it's
[00:17:18] truly unsafe to do so or maybe you're someone who will shut down and have high fatigue your body
[00:17:25] literally shuts your brain and your body down because it feels unsafe to to not I've had a few
[00:17:32] clients say if I even try to sit still like I can't my body will not let me and I feel like
[00:17:41] everything will fall apart and they've lived by that belief always striving always pushing
[00:17:47] until their body literally forced them to stop developing chronic fatigue developing pain
[00:17:54] and as frustrating as it is it's also their body's way of saying if your mind won't slow down I will
[00:18:01] so her body was doing what her nervous system knew was necessary which was
[00:18:06] really demanding attention and this isn't just anecdotal meaning I'm not just telling you
[00:18:12] what I've experienced with my clients research backs this up as well so in pain reprocessing
[00:18:17] therapy they talk about how personality traits like perfectionism people pleasing and putting
[00:18:23] pressure on yourself are actually predictors of chronic pain Alan Gorder who's one of the
[00:18:28] creators of pain reprocessing therapy and his team found that these high pressure
[00:18:32] self-critical patterns keep the brain on high alert and when the brain is scanning for danger
[00:18:38] 24 7 it misfires interpreting normal sensations as dangerous and that misfiring shows up as pain
[00:18:47] Dr. Howard Schubertner who was also on my podcast a few episodes ago who wrote on learn your pain
[00:18:53] says the same thing that these traits what he calls good ism which I kind of like that word
[00:18:58] the good ism traits or the drive to always be good perfect and productive are some of the
[00:19:03] strongest indicators that symptoms are neuroplastic rather than structural it's not that you're
[00:19:09] causing the pain by being perfectionistic again please do not hear me saying that you're not
[00:19:16] causing it you're not doing anything wrong to your body it's just that your nervous system
[00:19:21] has been conditioned to associate pressure with danger and it responds accordingly this is actually
[00:19:27] often why I see people plateau when they're healing because you can do all the things to
[00:19:35] help yourself whether that's physical treatments or brain training or nervous system regulation
[00:19:41] but if you're still pushing yourself and criticizing yourself to achieve it to
[00:19:47] achieve all these things your body never gets the safety it needs to heal there's many times
[00:19:52] where I hear someone say I'm doing this and I'm doing that and I'm afraid I'm not doing enough
[00:19:56] and I'm afraid I'm not doing it right and that in and of itself it's creating more pressure which
[00:20:01] creates more inflammation and dysregulation and pain so again it's not about blaming you it's not
[00:20:07] about saying you're doing it wrong because you're doing this it's really just helping you
[00:20:13] understand and rewire that automatic pressure that you you just keep continuing to put on
[00:20:20] yourself to get it right to do enough because with this work there is not going to be a perfect
[00:20:27] way of doing it that there can't be and everyone's a little bit different everyone takes their own
[00:20:34] time and so yes there are things to do and guidelines to to go by there's a reason why in
[00:20:41] my program the mind-body healing method I have things laid out in a certain way but I also
[00:20:46] very much so encourage people to go to different lessons that fit them like you don't have to
[00:20:53] go through each single one right off the bat or I mean like right after another you can if that
[00:20:59] helps you but again everyone's a little bit different and a big part of this process is
[00:21:03] learning flexibility is learning how to approach things from a sense of flexibility and curiosity
[00:21:11] and openness and willingness instead of pressure and rigidness and control and being critical
[00:21:18] because healing doesn't happen in fight or flight it happens in safety it happens in the
[00:21:28] the exhale and when we're in these high pressure feelings and automatic states we are not
[00:21:36] fully exhaling we are up here in our chest and talking fastly and trying to get it all
[00:21:44] done and blah blah blah blah blah like as I talk about it I start to like talk fast and do a lot
[00:21:51] more and I start to feel pressure but if I'm leaning in to safety and the relaxation response of the
[00:22:01] nervous system my body softens a little bit there's more trust in knowing that this work works
[00:22:12] that I am doing my best and that there is no perfect way so how do we do that what do we do
[00:22:21] how do we actually begin to loosen perfectionism script so our bodies can finally exhale and heal
[00:22:30] there aren't quick hacks for this well not overnight hacks I guess I'll say but it is
[00:22:35] about slowly and gently building new ways of right relating to yourself relating to those thoughts
[00:22:42] those feelings those emotions and here are a few core practices that I've seen change everything
[00:22:47] for myself and my clients so first and foremost trusting yourself and the work now
[00:22:54] if you hear me say that and you're like I don't know how the F to trust myself or my body because
[00:23:01] I mean I've there's been so much that's happened I get it first of all totally get it
[00:23:06] and it's okay you don't have to trust yourself 100 it's taken me years I mean so so many years
[00:23:15] to get to a place where I really really trust my body and myself and it's not perfect it's not
[00:23:21] every single day all the time and it doesn't have to take you years and years and years that's
[00:23:25] why I'm here teaching you but I guess yeah I'm just saying like you don't have to fully lean in
[00:23:31] all 100% and trust this work and trust yourself for it to work but there does have to be a little
[00:23:37] willingness and openness healing means that leaning in even when it feels uncomfortable or uncertain
[00:23:43] because perfectionists we love control you really want to control something so you feel worthy
[00:23:49] and you don't fail or lose control we want to see the outcome before we take the step
[00:23:55] but this work asks you to trust the process to trust your nervous system and trust yourself
[00:24:05] even when it feels messy or hard that trust is what slowly teaches your body I don't need to live
[00:24:13] and overdrive anymore I know that I am working with myself I am taking the steps to help my body
[00:24:20] help my mind and I'm going to continue doing this and I can trust that I will continue doing this
[00:24:26] especially when it doesn't look perfect and when it looks a little bit messy but there does have
[00:24:31] to be a certain level of trust and willingness so that you can let off the gas of the perfectionism
[00:24:38] and trust that you will be worthy you are enough just as you are and again that might
[00:24:45] feel so foreign to you and that's okay but that's what I want you to work towards
[00:24:49] is that you can be 100% worthy just as you are sitting where you are no matter what you're doing
[00:24:56] no matter if you're bedridden you can't get up or you are I don't know climbing the top of a 14 or
[00:25:03] mountain it doesn't matter you're worthy just as you are second is self-compassion which
[00:25:11] if you've listened to this podcast at all you know that's what I talk about all the time
[00:25:15] self-compassion because perfectionism thrives on self-criticism so every time you think I should
[00:25:22] be doing more I'm not enough your nervous system hears danger and self-compassion flips that script
[00:25:31] it's speaking to yourself the way that you would speak to someone you love it's safe to rest
[00:25:37] I'm already enough this is medicine for your brain and your body
[00:25:42] self-criticism is the antidote I'm sorry self-compassion is the antidote to self-criticism
[00:25:48] so so so so so so so much compassion for yourself when you notice yourself saying like oh I can't
[00:25:54] get this right or I'm not doing enough or how to keep doing more blah blah blah so lots and
[00:26:00] lots of compassion place your hand over your heart breathe deeply into your body
[00:26:08] notice the breath filling your body from head to toe feeling what it's like to pause
[00:26:19] and breathe without any other expectations without needing it to be a certain way
[00:26:25] just bringing in that love and light to your body and your heart number three is curiosity
[00:26:32] instead of judgment when you notice yourself pushing striving or feeling guilty for slowing
[00:26:37] down you pause and ask okay what am I afraid will happen if I stop what what am I doing here what makes
[00:26:45] me need to be so pressure-oriented and striving and pushing right now this isn't about blaming
[00:26:53] yourself it's about shining the light on the old survival story underneath the behavior
[00:27:00] curiosity helps you see the pattern without getting trapped in shame about it
[00:27:05] instead if you keep asking yourself oh why am I doing this why do I act like this why am I thinking
[00:27:10] about this why is my body reacting like this those why statements are actually pretty critical
[00:27:17] so why can be okay why can be compassionate curious statements but I would encourage you
[00:27:24] to say instead of like what am I afraid of feeling here or what belief system is actually
[00:27:30] driving the show right now is there a little flexibility that I can shift what I'm doing
[00:27:36] maybe I can pull back a little bit or is it okay to not that get this extra thing done today or
[00:27:40] is it okay to do it tomorrow or is it okay if I did mess up I did say something stupid
[00:27:48] actually I don't even want you to say that you could just say it's okay if I said that one
[00:27:53] thing it's okay people aren't gonna hate me for saying one thing number four is support and community
[00:28:02] so perfectionism thrives in isolation sometimes um no thrives in community as well if we're really
[00:28:08] getting praised by if we're surrounded by people whether it's work or family that are constantly
[00:28:14] expecting us to be perfect they can really thrive in those areas of as well but within
[00:28:20] yourself it can really thrive alone right it whispers like don't let anyone see you struggle
[00:28:26] but when we can open ourselves up to communities that can show us a different way
[00:28:33] it can be really healing so being witnessed and being reminded that you're not alone in this
[00:28:39] it's okay to mess up it's okay to not be perfect and having others reflect your humanity back to
[00:28:44] you and actually say you are loved we love you you are 100 okay just as you are that's one of the
[00:28:52] most powerful antidotes to perfectionism and shame is to be seen in some of your pain is to be seen
[00:29:00] as truly who you are and that's why group work and community spaces and one-on-one mentorship
[00:29:07] and therapy are such a core part of the healing journey there's no way shape or form I would
[00:29:12] be where I am today without all the support from my mentors and therapists and coaches and teachers
[00:29:18] and people there's there's just no way and that is exactly why I do what I do to help others just
[00:29:25] like I've been helped so this is just your encouragement to join in to find that support
[00:29:30] to start talking to people start talking to someone and if you don't have that if you
[00:29:34] don't know where to look go ahead and contact me we can figure out maybe what might work best for
[00:29:39] you or how to how to find those places so again like these are not boxes to check off they're more
[00:29:46] like practices to return to again and again trust compassion curiosity and support these are what
[00:29:54] actually rewire the nervous system so your body can move out of survival mode and end to safety
[00:30:01] where real healing happens so for just a simple day-to-day question you can ask yourself when you're
[00:30:10] feeling like you're pressuring yourself a lot or feeling critical instead of asking did I do
[00:30:16] enough today ask did I give myself moments of safety today that is where the real healing
[00:30:23] happens last but not least here's the truth today that perfectionism and productivity aren't
[00:30:30] flaws they are survival strategies they were ways you kept yourself safe in environments that didn't
[00:30:37] feel safe but those same strategies that once protected you and are now keeping your body stuck
[00:30:44] in survival your symptoms aren't portraying you they're signals that it's time for a different
[00:30:49] way of being a gentler way a more compassionate way if you want to go deeper into this work
[00:30:57] and really be seen and witnessed so you can step out of these patterns of criticism and lack of
[00:31:04] safety and not sharing how to manage and heal some of your symptoms this is exactly what we do in the
[00:31:11] mind-body healing method and we work directly on these patterns we talk a lot about perfectionism
[00:31:17] people pleasing productivity nervous system regulation brain training and how it all fits
[00:31:22] together and how they show up in your nervous system because when those patterns shift your
[00:31:27] body can finally do what it's designed to do which is heal and if you didn't know the mind-body
[00:31:33] healing method is a 12 week program where I give you the tools and steps to retrain your brain
[00:31:40] regulate your nervous system understand and work with your emotions so that you can really
[00:31:47] release some of these chronic symptoms that your body are using is using to protect you and
[00:31:53] I would love for you to join so go ahead and find the link below to apply and I'll talk with you to
[00:31:58] see if it's a right fit okay y'all I hope that this was helpful keep doing the work and I'll see you next time
[00:00:07] going to talk to you about how perfectionism, productivity, and pain all go together.
[00:00:13] While at the same time, this whole week, I was putting a lot of pressure on myself to make
[00:00:20] this episode perfect. And it's one of those things where, you know, when you plan to do
[00:00:25] something but you things keep getting in the way of it, which in reality really just means I'm
[00:00:30] putting on off because I'm feeling a little vulnerable or I'm feeling like I'm not going to get it right
[00:00:36] or I'm nervous about it. Like that's procrastination. We put off things that we're not sure we can
[00:00:41] do well or right or, you know, insert perfect statement. And so it's pretty ironic. And I
[00:00:48] realized that yesterday as once again, I planned to record this and it just didn't end up happening
[00:00:54] because a million other things happened. So I am coming to you sitting on my couch because I'm not
[00:01:02] in my, well not my couch. I'm sitting on a couch. I'm not in my normal office, which means I don't
[00:01:06] have my video and my microphone set up, which is how I'm supposed to be doing these things.
[00:01:12] And I realized, you know what, whatever, I'm just going to record with my little
[00:01:17] small microphone here. We're not going to do video. So I'm sorry if you like to watch them on YouTube,
[00:01:25] but this is just going to be an audio podcast. And to my editor, I'm sorry if the audio is not
[00:01:32] perfect, but it's okay. We're just going to do the best we can. The whole point is I want you
[00:01:38] to get across. I want to get across to you how the pressure we put on ourselves can lead to
[00:01:46] a stuck nervous system and to symptoms and how oftentimes you may not even actually realize
[00:01:53] you're doing it. Actually more often than not, we don't realize we're doing it. Some people will say
[00:01:57] like, oh, I noticed I'm being critical of myself. I'm putting pressure on myself. But
[00:02:01] more often than not, we don't, we don't realize it until someone points it out to us.
[00:02:05] So hi, that's me. I'm going to point that out to you today. All right. So
[00:02:10] I'm going to guess that if you're listening to this, you might be someone who
[00:02:15] you tell yourself you'll relax once the dishes are done, but somehow there's always one more thing
[00:02:21] or you can't send an email without rereading it five times. You feel guilty if you sit down to
[00:02:26] watch Netflix without also folding laundry and even on vacation, your brain is already running
[00:02:32] through your to-do list. Or maybe you feel like you just can't always get it right. Something's
[00:02:37] always coming in the way of your to-do list or finishing it. You can't get done what you
[00:02:42] thought you were going to get done or maybe you keep putting things off and then you criticize
[00:02:48] yourself for putting them off and not completing them. All of these things are little habits that
[00:02:54] might not feel like a big deal in the moment, but together they add up. They are signs of
[00:02:59] perfectionism and productivity running the show and they have a huge impact on your nervous
[00:03:04] system and your health. But here's the thing. Perfectionism and productivity aren't just
[00:03:09] personality traits. They are actually learned survival strategies. They're ways that our nervous
[00:03:15] system learned to keep us safe, loved, and accepted. And while those traits may have gotten you far in
[00:03:22] life, maybe even made you successful, they can also keep your body stuck in pain, fatigue,
[00:03:28] or other chronic symptoms or actually cover up what you really do enjoy and what makes you
[00:03:33] happy. So first and foremost, let's define these two things. Perfectionism and productivity.
[00:03:39] Perfectionism isn't just wanting to do things well. It's the belief that your worth or safety
[00:03:46] depends on doing things without mistakes. We often define it as setting unrealistically
[00:03:52] high standards for yourself, being overly self-critical, and tying your identity to
[00:03:57] achievement. In a nervous system lens, perfectionism is a survival strategy. It says,
[00:04:03] if I get it perfect, I'll be safe, I'll be loved, and I won't be rejected. And we're going to talk a
[00:04:08] little bit more about that, but that is the primal need of this perfectionism survival strategy.
[00:04:15] Productivity in itself just means accomplishing tasks or creating output, right? But in the
[00:04:21] context of chronic illness and nervous system work, productivity often becomes more than that.
[00:04:26] It's used as a coping mechanism. And actually, I would say probably just in the wide human
[00:04:32] nature, especially Western culture, that's just anyone. We all use productivity as a coping mechanism
[00:04:38] to feel more worthy and like we accomplished and like we're good. Like we were productive,
[00:04:44] oh, it was a good day. Again, it's not just I like to get things done, it's if I don't keep
[00:04:50] moving, accomplishing and producing, then I feel anxious, unsafe, worthless, weak, not good
[00:04:57] enough, all these beliefs. So where perfectionism is about how well you do something, productivity
[00:05:05] is about how much you do and see they can totally go hand in hand, but they're also separate, both
[00:05:11] can become ways of avoiding rest, feelings or vulnerability. So today, I'm going to unpack
[00:05:17] the surprising connection between productivity, perfectionism and chronic symptoms. And I'll
[00:05:22] share why your body might be screaming at you when you push yourself too hard, how this shows
[00:05:27] up in sneaky everyday ways. And most importantly, some steps you can take to break the cycle.
[00:05:33] Okay, first and foremost, let's talk about these beliefs, where perfectionism and productivity
[00:05:39] come from. So these patterns don't just come out of nowhere. They're not flaws. Again,
[00:05:46] they are strategies that your nervous system developed. And I have to say this, like, obviously,
[00:05:53] maybe not obviously, but to me, obviously, perfection and productivity are somewhat easy.
[00:06:01] I don't know if I should really say the word easy, but they are, they're very normal
[00:06:06] to fall into because society praises you for being perfect and productive. It's like,
[00:06:13] you get the gold star, you're seen as this worthy person if you are productive and perfect.
[00:06:21] And so for a lot of people, this perfectionism comes from childhood messages. For instance,
[00:06:26] like, if you get good grades, you're lovable. If you keep the peace, you're safe. You know,
[00:06:32] maybe there was a sibling or a parent that in your family that was having a lot of trouble.
[00:06:38] So if you were the peaceful one, you didn't make a lot of noise or commotion or any trouble for
[00:06:44] your parents or you were the one that just kind of like smooth things over a little bit more,
[00:06:49] then you're seen as good, right? You're seen as the better one or at least just someone that
[00:06:56] they can count on your worth. Maybe you learned that if you can get it right,
[00:07:01] you won't get in trouble. Maybe you were always aware of everyone else in the home,
[00:07:06] aware of when to stay in your room. So to not disturb the peace or maybe you were counting
[00:07:11] down the minutes before a parent came home. So you weren't loud so they wouldn't get upset
[00:07:17] or you knew that a sibling was having a hard time or causing more trouble. So you stayed
[00:07:23] quiet. So it did not cause any quote unquote trouble. And so actually there's so much that
[00:07:28] could come from this, not just needing to be perfect and productive, but also that dismisses
[00:07:34] your own needs and wants. So you become quiet, you don't voice your needs, you don't express your
[00:07:38] feelings because that might be deemed as too much or disturbing the peace or you never felt safe in
[00:07:46] order to do that. So you just didn't, you stayed quiet, you stayed perfect. So the nervous system
[00:07:53] wires in this belief, if I do enough, achieve enough or never make mistakes, I'll be safe.
[00:07:59] The wiring doesn't just vanish when you grow up. It runs in the background,
[00:08:04] driving you to push harder, to do more, to criticize yourself for falling short. And I mean,
[00:08:11] I very much don't know this from a personal experience, but I have to name that I never
[00:08:16] saw myself as this. I never saw myself as a perfectionist or like I could never get it
[00:08:21] right. And so, you know, from the outside, I didn't look like someone who I never got straight
[00:08:25] A's. I never got like great grades actually, always had trouble in school. And along the way,
[00:08:31] I could have seen myself, or I did see myself as like having a hard time achieving things.
[00:08:37] So how could I be a perfectionist? Well, yeah, I got called out early in my early 20s in therapy.
[00:08:44] And I don't even know what I was talking about. But my therapist at the time
[00:08:48] called out perfectionism. And I said, I said, no, I don't think so because I've never been
[00:08:54] able to like get it right or get it perfect. Like I couldn't get that great, perfect grade.
[00:09:00] And as I said that, I was like, I had the a-ha of like, oh,
[00:09:05] oh, yeah, the idea that I can't get it right. That's perfectionism in and of itself. It was
[00:09:11] like that like literally if I was in a movie, a light bulb would have been all gone off right
[00:09:14] over my head of like, oh, okay. So then I kind of started diving into it of like, what
[00:09:20] does this actually look like? Because we have this idea of perfectionists. And maybe you're thinking
[00:09:26] of one in your life, maybe you are thinking of that person as you, but that all that we look all
[00:09:31] different. It's really more about the pressure you put on yourself, the fear that you feel if you
[00:09:37] can't get something right, or the rejection you actually feel underneath the surface,
[00:09:42] because you're so afraid of not being worthy of getting it right.
[00:09:46] So here are some of the ways that it can show up that might not be something you would think of. So
[00:09:52] a lot of people don't realize that they're operating out of perfectionism or productivity
[00:09:57] because it shows up in these really minute everyday ways. So for example, maybe
[00:10:04] you can't sit down to relax until the kitchen is spotless or even just cleaned up
[00:10:09] more than maybe it quote unquote should be or could be. Maybe you reread an email 10 times before
[00:10:16] sending it just to make sure it's perfect. Maybe you feel guilty if you sit down to watch TV or
[00:10:24] take a break from work or rest without doing all the things on your to-do list that you should
[00:10:31] have quote unquote should have gotten done for the day. Maybe your checklist always has to
[00:10:36] be done, but then you also feel like you can't ever get it done. So then you inherently just feel
[00:10:41] like you're failing. Or maybe you replay conversations at night worrying if you said
[00:10:46] the wrong thing. Are you always apologizing for being tired or sick even to yourself?
[00:10:53] Maybe you micromanage your healing. You're always getting new tests. Maybe you've already
[00:10:58] started brain training and nervous system regulation and you are always trying to
[00:11:04] figure out if you're doing it right and you're afraid that you're getting it wrong.
[00:11:08] Maybe you keep questioning whether you're journaling correctly or you're regulating
[00:11:12] your nervous system correctly and you're learning and reading all the things all the videos.
[00:11:18] Maybe you fall into the all or nothing camp where when you do something you do it you do
[00:11:24] it all. You do everything. You're full force at it. Or if you can't feel like if you don't
[00:11:30] feel like you can get it right and you're going to be good at it you just don't approach it at all.
[00:11:35] That's all or nothing. Maybe you tense up the second you feel behind. Tight shoulders, tight jaw
[00:11:43] and this feeling of not being able to get it right or always doing more is that pressure
[00:11:51] that we have within our bodies. Perfectionism doesn't always look like a gold star student
[00:11:57] with color coded binders. Sometimes it's in these tiny habits that keep your nervous system
[00:12:03] stuck in the danger mode. Anytime I start to share examples like this I can start to see
[00:12:09] some of my clients some of my students like will go off like oh okay all right I see that
[00:12:16] right. Maybe you're the one always planning things in your family. You're always planning
[00:12:20] the things to do. You're always on. That's productivity and the way that you approach it
[00:12:26] if you approach it with pressure and perfectionism that's the added layer to it.
[00:12:33] One thing I want to highlight here too is that for many of us productivity is actually a coping
[00:12:38] mechanism. So as I mentioned earlier it's really to cover up this belief systems about
[00:12:43] ourselves that we're not worthy if we don't do these things and it looks like maybe on the
[00:12:50] outside like ambition or discipline but underneath it's a nervous system strategy.
[00:12:56] So when we stay busy we keep moving. When we're constantly checking things off the list
[00:13:00] it keeps us having to sit with what's underneath and that anxiety the grief the shame the old
[00:13:08] stories we don't want to feel is what we're covering up. So productivity becomes this
[00:13:15] socially acceptable way of avoiding and actually I even say more than socially acceptable.
[00:13:22] It is praised. It is you get the gold star if you are more productive and you are more perfect at it.
[00:13:31] Nobody questions you for working for being a hard worker. They reward it. You get praised
[00:13:37] for being efficient organized on top of it but for many of us our body ends up paying
[00:13:43] the price. I mean I can't even tell you since I've become a little bit more aware at this countless
[00:13:48] times I overhear conversations or I hear someone say to me you know like oh wow you're doing all
[00:13:56] that or like oh wow how do you do it or you know wow you did this and there's a part of me that's
[00:14:03] like oh that feels good right that validation which there's nothing wrong with that. It's not
[00:14:08] there's nothing wrong with getting validated and at the same time like the other part of me
[00:14:13] can be can become aware of oh okay am I only getting my validation from all the sprays of
[00:14:20] you know being the quote unquote good girl and doing all the things that I can wow people by.
[00:14:25] So I don't want you to think I'm just completely pessimistic about
[00:14:29] productivity because sometimes it's needed and it's how we get to our desires and our
[00:14:34] goals in life. It's just more about like how much are you doing and how are you approaching it.
[00:14:40] So what perfectionism and productivity do to your nervous system is that it keeps it on constant
[00:14:45] activation. You're never signaling to your brain it's okay to stop it's okay to rest we're
[00:14:52] safe to do so. We deserve and are worthy of not producing all the time. Maybe your
[00:15:00] productive coping mescanism is working a lot working later so you can feel avoid feeling lonely
[00:15:08] or being productive so that you avoid actually acknowledging with making you unhappy or you're
[00:15:17] continuing to fold the laundry so you're avoiding thinking or crying about maybe actually what you
[00:15:22] feel inside and I have to normalize that this is a very normal human response if we never learned
[00:15:29] to express our feelings, manage our feelings if we never learned to be authentic to ourselves and
[00:15:36] it's okay to do that and it's safe to do that then we're going to cope. We're going to put on a shield
[00:15:42] of productivity to help us feel accepted and that's a very primal normal response. So this
[00:15:50] isn't to say oh look at what you're doing to yourself you know shame or guilt for being
[00:15:55] productive or perfect not at all not at all this is really just to help you become more aware of all
[00:16:01] these little ways that it can show up. Your body doesn't want you to outrun your feelings forever
[00:16:08] and that is when symptoms start showing up that's when the fatigue the pain the migraines the
[00:16:14] IBS the anything shows up as a way to force you to pause. So productivity is being used
[00:16:24] as a coping mechanism and the good news is once you see it you can start to shift it. So when your
[00:16:30] nervous system is wired for this when it's wired for productivity and perfectionism your body never
[00:16:36] really gets to rest and even when it does it doesn't know how because if you think about it if your
[00:16:41] baseline like your base on your nervous system is to constantly go your body is stuck in that
[00:16:46] sympathetic activation which is also known as fight or flight mode and that means that your
[00:16:52] stress hormones are pumping constantly so your cortisol increases your hormones maybe become out
[00:16:59] of balance your digestion starts to slow down or gets a little bit messed up for lack of better
[00:17:06] medical terms your muscles stay tense and your sleep gets disrupted maybe you're someone who has
[00:17:13] high anxiety and it's really hard to slow down because your nervous system thinks it's
[00:17:18] truly unsafe to do so or maybe you're someone who will shut down and have high fatigue your body
[00:17:25] literally shuts your brain and your body down because it feels unsafe to to not I've had a few
[00:17:32] clients say if I even try to sit still like I can't my body will not let me and I feel like
[00:17:41] everything will fall apart and they've lived by that belief always striving always pushing
[00:17:47] until their body literally forced them to stop developing chronic fatigue developing pain
[00:17:54] and as frustrating as it is it's also their body's way of saying if your mind won't slow down I will
[00:18:01] so her body was doing what her nervous system knew was necessary which was
[00:18:06] really demanding attention and this isn't just anecdotal meaning I'm not just telling you
[00:18:12] what I've experienced with my clients research backs this up as well so in pain reprocessing
[00:18:17] therapy they talk about how personality traits like perfectionism people pleasing and putting
[00:18:23] pressure on yourself are actually predictors of chronic pain Alan Gorder who's one of the
[00:18:28] creators of pain reprocessing therapy and his team found that these high pressure
[00:18:32] self-critical patterns keep the brain on high alert and when the brain is scanning for danger
[00:18:38] 24 7 it misfires interpreting normal sensations as dangerous and that misfiring shows up as pain
[00:18:47] Dr. Howard Schubertner who was also on my podcast a few episodes ago who wrote on learn your pain
[00:18:53] says the same thing that these traits what he calls good ism which I kind of like that word
[00:18:58] the good ism traits or the drive to always be good perfect and productive are some of the
[00:19:03] strongest indicators that symptoms are neuroplastic rather than structural it's not that you're
[00:19:09] causing the pain by being perfectionistic again please do not hear me saying that you're not
[00:19:16] causing it you're not doing anything wrong to your body it's just that your nervous system
[00:19:21] has been conditioned to associate pressure with danger and it responds accordingly this is actually
[00:19:27] often why I see people plateau when they're healing because you can do all the things to
[00:19:35] help yourself whether that's physical treatments or brain training or nervous system regulation
[00:19:41] but if you're still pushing yourself and criticizing yourself to achieve it to
[00:19:47] achieve all these things your body never gets the safety it needs to heal there's many times
[00:19:52] where I hear someone say I'm doing this and I'm doing that and I'm afraid I'm not doing enough
[00:19:56] and I'm afraid I'm not doing it right and that in and of itself it's creating more pressure which
[00:20:01] creates more inflammation and dysregulation and pain so again it's not about blaming you it's not
[00:20:07] about saying you're doing it wrong because you're doing this it's really just helping you
[00:20:13] understand and rewire that automatic pressure that you you just keep continuing to put on
[00:20:20] yourself to get it right to do enough because with this work there is not going to be a perfect
[00:20:27] way of doing it that there can't be and everyone's a little bit different everyone takes their own
[00:20:34] time and so yes there are things to do and guidelines to to go by there's a reason why in
[00:20:41] my program the mind-body healing method I have things laid out in a certain way but I also
[00:20:46] very much so encourage people to go to different lessons that fit them like you don't have to
[00:20:53] go through each single one right off the bat or I mean like right after another you can if that
[00:20:59] helps you but again everyone's a little bit different and a big part of this process is
[00:21:03] learning flexibility is learning how to approach things from a sense of flexibility and curiosity
[00:21:11] and openness and willingness instead of pressure and rigidness and control and being critical
[00:21:18] because healing doesn't happen in fight or flight it happens in safety it happens in the
[00:21:28] the exhale and when we're in these high pressure feelings and automatic states we are not
[00:21:36] fully exhaling we are up here in our chest and talking fastly and trying to get it all
[00:21:44] done and blah blah blah blah blah like as I talk about it I start to like talk fast and do a lot
[00:21:51] more and I start to feel pressure but if I'm leaning in to safety and the relaxation response of the
[00:22:01] nervous system my body softens a little bit there's more trust in knowing that this work works
[00:22:12] that I am doing my best and that there is no perfect way so how do we do that what do we do
[00:22:21] how do we actually begin to loosen perfectionism script so our bodies can finally exhale and heal
[00:22:30] there aren't quick hacks for this well not overnight hacks I guess I'll say but it is
[00:22:35] about slowly and gently building new ways of right relating to yourself relating to those thoughts
[00:22:42] those feelings those emotions and here are a few core practices that I've seen change everything
[00:22:47] for myself and my clients so first and foremost trusting yourself and the work now
[00:22:54] if you hear me say that and you're like I don't know how the F to trust myself or my body because
[00:23:01] I mean I've there's been so much that's happened I get it first of all totally get it
[00:23:06] and it's okay you don't have to trust yourself 100 it's taken me years I mean so so many years
[00:23:15] to get to a place where I really really trust my body and myself and it's not perfect it's not
[00:23:21] every single day all the time and it doesn't have to take you years and years and years that's
[00:23:25] why I'm here teaching you but I guess yeah I'm just saying like you don't have to fully lean in
[00:23:31] all 100% and trust this work and trust yourself for it to work but there does have to be a little
[00:23:37] willingness and openness healing means that leaning in even when it feels uncomfortable or uncertain
[00:23:43] because perfectionists we love control you really want to control something so you feel worthy
[00:23:49] and you don't fail or lose control we want to see the outcome before we take the step
[00:23:55] but this work asks you to trust the process to trust your nervous system and trust yourself
[00:24:05] even when it feels messy or hard that trust is what slowly teaches your body I don't need to live
[00:24:13] and overdrive anymore I know that I am working with myself I am taking the steps to help my body
[00:24:20] help my mind and I'm going to continue doing this and I can trust that I will continue doing this
[00:24:26] especially when it doesn't look perfect and when it looks a little bit messy but there does have
[00:24:31] to be a certain level of trust and willingness so that you can let off the gas of the perfectionism
[00:24:38] and trust that you will be worthy you are enough just as you are and again that might
[00:24:45] feel so foreign to you and that's okay but that's what I want you to work towards
[00:24:49] is that you can be 100% worthy just as you are sitting where you are no matter what you're doing
[00:24:56] no matter if you're bedridden you can't get up or you are I don't know climbing the top of a 14 or
[00:25:03] mountain it doesn't matter you're worthy just as you are second is self-compassion which
[00:25:11] if you've listened to this podcast at all you know that's what I talk about all the time
[00:25:15] self-compassion because perfectionism thrives on self-criticism so every time you think I should
[00:25:22] be doing more I'm not enough your nervous system hears danger and self-compassion flips that script
[00:25:31] it's speaking to yourself the way that you would speak to someone you love it's safe to rest
[00:25:37] I'm already enough this is medicine for your brain and your body
[00:25:42] self-criticism is the antidote I'm sorry self-compassion is the antidote to self-criticism
[00:25:48] so so so so so so so much compassion for yourself when you notice yourself saying like oh I can't
[00:25:54] get this right or I'm not doing enough or how to keep doing more blah blah blah so lots and
[00:26:00] lots of compassion place your hand over your heart breathe deeply into your body
[00:26:08] notice the breath filling your body from head to toe feeling what it's like to pause
[00:26:19] and breathe without any other expectations without needing it to be a certain way
[00:26:25] just bringing in that love and light to your body and your heart number three is curiosity
[00:26:32] instead of judgment when you notice yourself pushing striving or feeling guilty for slowing
[00:26:37] down you pause and ask okay what am I afraid will happen if I stop what what am I doing here what makes
[00:26:45] me need to be so pressure-oriented and striving and pushing right now this isn't about blaming
[00:26:53] yourself it's about shining the light on the old survival story underneath the behavior
[00:27:00] curiosity helps you see the pattern without getting trapped in shame about it
[00:27:05] instead if you keep asking yourself oh why am I doing this why do I act like this why am I thinking
[00:27:10] about this why is my body reacting like this those why statements are actually pretty critical
[00:27:17] so why can be okay why can be compassionate curious statements but I would encourage you
[00:27:24] to say instead of like what am I afraid of feeling here or what belief system is actually
[00:27:30] driving the show right now is there a little flexibility that I can shift what I'm doing
[00:27:36] maybe I can pull back a little bit or is it okay to not that get this extra thing done today or
[00:27:40] is it okay to do it tomorrow or is it okay if I did mess up I did say something stupid
[00:27:48] actually I don't even want you to say that you could just say it's okay if I said that one
[00:27:53] thing it's okay people aren't gonna hate me for saying one thing number four is support and community
[00:28:02] so perfectionism thrives in isolation sometimes um no thrives in community as well if we're really
[00:28:08] getting praised by if we're surrounded by people whether it's work or family that are constantly
[00:28:14] expecting us to be perfect they can really thrive in those areas of as well but within
[00:28:20] yourself it can really thrive alone right it whispers like don't let anyone see you struggle
[00:28:26] but when we can open ourselves up to communities that can show us a different way
[00:28:33] it can be really healing so being witnessed and being reminded that you're not alone in this
[00:28:39] it's okay to mess up it's okay to not be perfect and having others reflect your humanity back to
[00:28:44] you and actually say you are loved we love you you are 100 okay just as you are that's one of the
[00:28:52] most powerful antidotes to perfectionism and shame is to be seen in some of your pain is to be seen
[00:29:00] as truly who you are and that's why group work and community spaces and one-on-one mentorship
[00:29:07] and therapy are such a core part of the healing journey there's no way shape or form I would
[00:29:12] be where I am today without all the support from my mentors and therapists and coaches and teachers
[00:29:18] and people there's there's just no way and that is exactly why I do what I do to help others just
[00:29:25] like I've been helped so this is just your encouragement to join in to find that support
[00:29:30] to start talking to people start talking to someone and if you don't have that if you
[00:29:34] don't know where to look go ahead and contact me we can figure out maybe what might work best for
[00:29:39] you or how to how to find those places so again like these are not boxes to check off they're more
[00:29:46] like practices to return to again and again trust compassion curiosity and support these are what
[00:29:54] actually rewire the nervous system so your body can move out of survival mode and end to safety
[00:30:01] where real healing happens so for just a simple day-to-day question you can ask yourself when you're
[00:30:10] feeling like you're pressuring yourself a lot or feeling critical instead of asking did I do
[00:30:16] enough today ask did I give myself moments of safety today that is where the real healing
[00:30:23] happens last but not least here's the truth today that perfectionism and productivity aren't
[00:30:30] flaws they are survival strategies they were ways you kept yourself safe in environments that didn't
[00:30:37] feel safe but those same strategies that once protected you and are now keeping your body stuck
[00:30:44] in survival your symptoms aren't portraying you they're signals that it's time for a different
[00:30:49] way of being a gentler way a more compassionate way if you want to go deeper into this work
[00:30:57] and really be seen and witnessed so you can step out of these patterns of criticism and lack of
[00:31:04] safety and not sharing how to manage and heal some of your symptoms this is exactly what we do in the
[00:31:11] mind-body healing method and we work directly on these patterns we talk a lot about perfectionism
[00:31:17] people pleasing productivity nervous system regulation brain training and how it all fits
[00:31:22] together and how they show up in your nervous system because when those patterns shift your
[00:31:27] body can finally do what it's designed to do which is heal and if you didn't know the mind-body
[00:31:33] healing method is a 12 week program where I give you the tools and steps to retrain your brain
[00:31:40] regulate your nervous system understand and work with your emotions so that you can really
[00:31:47] release some of these chronic symptoms that your body are using is using to protect you and
[00:31:53] I would love for you to join so go ahead and find the link below to apply and I'll talk with you to
[00:31:58] see if it's a right fit okay y'all I hope that this was helpful keep doing the work and I'll see you next time
